CoreyClough wrote:

It used to be that Super Dino and Vintage were separated by 18 years...now it's 26 years and growing (Vintage is frozen at 1974 and earlier bikes).

If Vintage stayed compatable AHRMA's Vintage Superbike Rules(I know this is AFM), some 1985 bikes would be allowed in Vintage. Another race class, more $$ for the club as long as SD isn't raced with Vintage.
Side note, if we all want SD to grow, and be the SD it was meant to be, running the newer bikes will only get newer bikes in the class. To me, and maybe it's just me, Super Dinosaur is just that. Dinosaurs, not necessarily Vintage. 2000 bikes are not Dinosaurs.

Just my input.

Corey,

You are absolutely right! What's more, I actually created and presented a proposal 2 - 3 years back which suggested expanding Vintage to be more "real world", and in line with other clubs. My proposal would have allowed bikes up to 1992 into the Vintage class, and - I believe - would have created MUCH HIGHER Vintage class entries, and overall growth. Sadly, my proposal was rejected. As it is now, only 1 - 3 racers enter Vintage on a regular basis...and that's a shame.

Other clubs (such as the now defunct, but soon to be back) WSMC, and WERA allow bikes from the 80's and even early 90's...why shouldn't we?

- Do we really want to grow the class...or are we just stuck on what the idea of "Vintage" should be?
- Will we still have a 1974 cut off for Vintage bikes in 2024...50 years later?
- When will we change to make OUR vintage class more realistic and generate new interest, more entries, and economic growth for the AFM?

I know of several racers who - if the rules change I suggested were adopted - would race Vintage almost immediately (myself included). We should capture these opportunities, and put some memorable, capable, and very cool older bikes back on the track.

I have to say...the AFM is REALLY TRYING now. It's obvious by the e-mails we get regularly with new ideas and ways to generate interest. Think about it..."Swap Meet", "Exhibition Races", "New Racer Rewards", and the list goes on. I took a wait and see attitude this year with the change in leadership, but I have to say...the board is REALLY TRYING HARD to think of ways to grow the club, and keep us prosperous long term. For THAT, I give Berto, Barb, and the entire AFM board a BIG THUMBS UP!

CoreyClough wrote:

It used to be that Super Dino and Vintage were separated by 18 years...now it's 26 years and growing (Vintage is frozen at 1974 and earlier bikes).

If Vintage stayed compatable AHRMA's Vintage Superbike Rules(I know this is AFM), some 1985 bikes would be allowed in Vintage. Another race class, more $$ for the club as long as SD isn't raced with Vintage.
Side note, if we all want SD to grow, and be the SD it was meant to be, running the newer bikes will only get newer bikes in the class. To me, and maybe it's just me, Super Dinosaur is just that. Dinosaurs, not necessarily Vintage. 2000 bikes are not Dinosaurs.

Just my input.

Corey,

You are absolutely right! What's more, I actually created and presented a proposal 2 - 3 years back which suggested expanding Vintage to be more "real world", and in line with other clubs. My proposal would have allowed bikes up to 1992 into the Vintage class, and - I believe - would have created MUCH HIGHER Vintage class entries, and overall growth. Sadly, my proposal was rejected. As it is now, only 1 - 3 racers enter Vintage on a regular basis...and that's a shame.

Other clubs (such as the now defunct, but soon to be back) WSMC, and WERA allow bikes from the 80's and even early 90's...why shouldn't we?

- Do we really want to grow the class...or are we just stuck on what the idea of "Vintage" should be?
- Will we still have a 1974 cut off for Vintage bikes in 2024...50 years later?
- When will we change to make OUR vintage class more realistic and generate new interest, more entries, and economic growth for the AFM?

I know of several racers who - if the rules change I suggested were adopted - would race Vintage almost immediately (myself included). We should capture these opportunities, and put some memorable, capable, and very cool older bikes back on the track.

I have to say...the AFM is REALLY TRYING now. It's obvious by the e-mails we get regularly with new ideas and ways to generate interest. Think about it..."Swap Meet", "Exhibition Races", "New Racer Rewards", and the list goes on. I took a wait and see attitude this year with the change in leadership, but I have to say...the board is REALLY TRYING HARD to think of ways to grow the club, and keep us prosperous long term. For THAT, I give the entire Berto, Barb, and the AFM board a BIG THUMBS UP!

CoreyClough wrote:

It used to be that Super Dino and Vintage were separated by 18 years...now it's 26 years and growing (Vintage is frozen at 1974 and earlier bikes).

If Vintage stayed compatable AHRMA's Vintage Superbike Rules(I know this is AFM), some 1985 bikes would be allowed in Vintage. Another race class, more $$ for the club as long as SD isn't raced with Vintage.
Side note, if we all want SD to grow, and be the SD it was meant to be, running the newer bikes will only get newer bikes in the class. To me, and maybe it's just me, Super Dinosaur is just that. Dinosaurs, not necessarily Vintage. 2000 bikes are not Dinosaurs.

Just my input.

Corey,

You are absolutely right! What's more, I actually created and presented a proposal 2 - 3 years back which suggested expanding Vintage to be more "real world", and in line with other clubs. My proposal would have allowed bikes up to 1992 into the Vintage class, and - I believe - would have created MUCH HIGHER Vintage class entries, and overall growth. As it is now, only 1 - 3 racers enter Vintage on a regular basis...and that's a shame.

Other clubs (such as the now defunct, but soon to be back) WSMC, and WERA allow bikes from the 80's and even early 90's...why shouldn't we?

- Do we really want to grow the class...or are we just stuck on what the idea of "Vintage" should be?
- Will we still have a 1974 cut off for Vintage bikes in 2024...50 years later?
- When will we change to make OUR vintage class more realistic and generate new interest, more entries, and economic growth for the AFM?

I know of several racers who - if the rules change I suggested were adopted - would race Vintage almost immediately (myself included). We should capture these opportunities, and put some memorable, capable, and very cool older bikes back on the track.

I have to say...the AFM is REALLY TRYING now. It's obvious by the e-mails we get regularly with new ideas and ways to generate interest. Think about it..."Swap Meet", "Exhibition Races", "New Racer Rewards", and the list goes on. I took a wait and see attitude this year with the change in leadership, but I have to say...the board is REALLY TRYING HARD to think of ways to grow the club, and keep us prosperous long term. For THAT, I give the entire Berto, Barb, and the AFM board a BIG THUMBS UP!